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raised the capital gains tax, the top marginal tax rates, but also tax increases distract from what the country needs to do. we need to deal with our runaway government spending. the government is spending too much money. tax increases are not part of cutting the budget. tax increases are what politicians do instead of reform the government. as long as tax increases are on the table, the politicians never even think about reforming government. >> and i understand. you have been on this fight for a long time and you've been devoted to the whole idea of not seeing taxes increase anywhere. but what we're down to right now is largely a political battle over the increase in marginal tax rates based on what you earn. i understand there's a lot more to this puzzle, but on that front, because that's the one that gets most of the ink around here, whether people who earn more than $250,000 or $400,000 or $1 million should may-pay more tax. the point is that's not going to hurt the economy. that's all we're talking about. paying 4.6%, 8 points higher on your income over $250,000, empirically t
raised the capital gains tax, the top marginal tax rates, but also tax increases distract from what the country needs to do. we need to deal with our runaway government spending. the government is spending too much money. tax increases are not part of cutting the budget. tax increases are what politicians do instead of reform the government. as long as tax increases are on the table, the politicians never even think about reforming government. >> and i understand. you have been on this...
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, tax reform and tax incentives for charitable giving. back to the phones. jack in michigan, on our line for independence. go ahead, jack. caller: i want to ask mr. rosenberg if he has ever heard of lincoln electric in cleveland, ohio. host: and why did he wanted to know that? caller: well, they wrote a book, james f. lincoln wrote a book, a new approach to industrial economics where they have no unions. everybody is responsible for their own work. they do peace work. everybody's responsible. everybody has a lifetime job. they get huge pieces of the pie. and ownership is -- the people, the workers, everybody owns the piece of the pie. host: what does this have to do with the fiscal cliff? caller: well, if more -- if more people -- if more industries would go to that, they wouldn't fall off the cliff. everybody would go to work. host: mr. rosenberg? guest: so i haven't heard of that but it sounds like a great place to be and live. i would have to get the name of that again. host: next up is don on the washington redskins. -- "washington jo
, tax reform and tax incentives for charitable giving. back to the phones. jack in michigan, on our line for independence. go ahead, jack. caller: i want to ask mr. rosenberg if he has ever heard of lincoln electric in cleveland, ohio. host: and why did he wanted to know that? caller: well, they wrote a book, james f. lincoln wrote a book, a new approach to industrial economics where they have no unions. everybody is responsible for their own work. they do peace work. everybody's responsible....
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because you have to add both the obama care tax that's coming and the tax, the disappearing bush tax increase and this hits primarily as you know, small business owners and people who file subchapter s corporations. >> that's not who is primarily hits, it hits some of those people. >> over half of all the small business income that ends up paying this higher rate, if you do it. and the last time we did this, more than two-thirds of the people who got hit, were actually the subchapter s corporation. i think it would have a very significant effect. the other effect it has is that we're not cutting spending because we're spending too much money. and that sends a very bad signal. if we're not going to do entitlement reform, because every time we talk about it obama says let's raise taxes instead. we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his j
because you have to add both the obama care tax that's coming and the tax, the disappearing bush tax increase and this hits primarily as you know, small business owners and people who file subchapter s corporations. >> that's not who is primarily hits, it hits some of those people. >> over half of all the small business income that ends up paying this higher rate, if you do it. and the last time we did this, more than two-thirds of the people who got hit, were actually the...
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-- the tax issues. we are very, very close. as the president just said, the most important piece, the piece that has to be done now, is preventing the tax hikes. >> in just the last hour, the president said a deal is, quote, within sight and that he himself is willing to make the hard choices to avoid $600 billion in automatic spending cuts and tax hikes. wolf blitzer joining me now. wolf, you've been with these kinds of negotiations before. when you look at this thing, do you think the can is just getting kicked down the road? in some ways it seems we're only getting a down payment here if that on the bigger issue of deficit reduction. >> and you're absolutely right, joe. the president himself acknowledged that he wanted a big deal, a big picture deal if you will, couldn't achieve that with the leadership in congress. so they're going to do it in stages. they're going to do it in various parts. they are kicking some very sensitive issues down the road over the next few months. the republicans are happy
-- the tax issues. we are very, very close. as the president just said, the most important piece, the piece that has to be done now, is preventing the tax hikes. >> in just the last hour, the president said a deal is, quote, within sight and that he himself is willing to make the hard choices to avoid $600 billion in automatic spending cuts and tax hikes. wolf blitzer joining me now. wolf, you've been with these kinds of negotiations before. when you look at this thing, do you think the...
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purposes of tax policy it's not a major purpose of tax policy all taxes manipulate behavior but let's try to keep that to a minimum keep the tax base simple and broad why not why not use tax policy to reduce behavior this destructive the economy flash that's rashes and i don't think freedom i mean do you know would you have a problem i mean do you have a problem with the fact that there are robots making millions of trades every minute on wall street. we saw in the flash crash of two thousand and ten or something like that where the market dropped a thousand points and nobody knew we were exactly why and i think there was a huge risk to the financials and i don't have a problem with anybody losing billions of dollars because on the other side of that transaction somebody made billions nobody just wins and loses there's always someone on the other side of the transaction but this is really big i mean these are these are robots that are programs in that they're doing this people are making trades to invest in companies that they think are going to do well or you know making long term in
purposes of tax policy it's not a major purpose of tax policy all taxes manipulate behavior but let's try to keep that to a minimum keep the tax base simple and broad why not why not use tax policy to reduce behavior this destructive the economy flash that's rashes and i don't think freedom i mean do you know would you have a problem i mean do you have a problem with the fact that there are robots making millions of trades every minute on wall street. we saw in the flash crash of two thousand...
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whose taxes will go up? people who earn more than 250,000 a year or people who earn more than 450,000 a year? republicans want to see the 450,000 threshold and democrats, 250,000. you need a few republicans in the house and democrats in the senate. it's more likely to be the 400,000 threshold. something the president offered. what does this do about taxes on inherited estates? currently, an estate worth $5 million or more gets taxed at a 35% rate. will that stay or change at all? and all of the automatic budget cuts we've deputy talking about for a year. nothing that would suggest that something will come up, later perhaps by march when they talk about the debt ceiling. >> he's talking about later in march, talking about a small deal being done now, which means we have to be back doing this all over again. >> yeah, the only thing on the table at this point are the tax rates extending bush tax cuts and a whole suite of things that were part of the fiscal cliff that aren't going to be touched. we'll have the d
whose taxes will go up? people who earn more than 250,000 a year or people who earn more than 450,000 a year? republicans want to see the 450,000 threshold and democrats, 250,000. you need a few republicans in the house and democrats in the senate. it's more likely to be the 400,000 threshold. something the president offered. what does this do about taxes on inherited estates? currently, an estate worth $5 million or more gets taxed at a 35% rate. will that stay or change at all? and all of the...
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has an incomes tax liability. you oval don't want to see our -- you obviously don't want to see our defense have to deal with what would be deep, deep cuts in our national security budget. those are two things that will happen tomorrow unless congress can act to prevent that. and so count me among those who wants to be, see a solution. i certainly hope that the negotiations that are occurring right now can conclude in a way that will give us an outcome, that prevents those tax rates from increasing on americans across this country and also put in place some things that would actually deal with the real problem. and the real problem, mr. president, is that our country spends too much. and we are where we are today because we haven't done our work when we should have previously. if you think about the fact that for three consecutive years -- three years in a row -- in the united states senate we haven't passed a budget. we spent $3.5 trillion of american taxpayer money every single year and for three consecutive yea
has an incomes tax liability. you oval don't want to see our -- you obviously don't want to see our defense have to deal with what would be deep, deep cuts in our national security budget. those are two things that will happen tomorrow unless congress can act to prevent that. and so count me among those who wants to be, see a solution. i certainly hope that the negotiations that are occurring right now can conclude in a way that will give us an outcome, that prevents those tax rates from...
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it's a tax on the value of the equipment or the land that has already been taxed with a property tax or a tax on the equipment. so there is a reason to have some accommodation in the death tax so that we will not face more unemployed people who work for a family-owned business or farm, and that is a -- it is if not the number-one issue of the farm bureau of this country, it's certainly in the top two or three because they know, they know what it's like to have to sell land that is not productive at a value that is not realistic and pay a tax, and a 55% tax is pretty confiscatory. so, mr. president, i do hope that we can come together on a bipartisan basis because if we don't come together on a bipartisan basis, nothing will get done because we have the house that is looking to the united states senate, that is supposed to be the adult in the room, and they are looking at us to see how the votes turn out. and we need a large majority on both sides of the aisle to accepted to the house something that has a firm stamp of approval from this body. and we need the president to be a player
it's a tax on the value of the equipment or the land that has already been taxed with a property tax or a tax on the equipment. so there is a reason to have some accommodation in the death tax so that we will not face more unemployed people who work for a family-owned business or farm, and that is a -- it is if not the number-one issue of the farm bureau of this country, it's certainly in the top two or three because they know, they know what it's like to have to sell land that is not...
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we've got a deal on taxes. we've got a few kinks to work out but they are quote, very, very close to a deal. tune in tonight 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. live for coverage of the fiscal cliff. myself and a cast of thousands with your latest as we count down toward the end of the year. "closing bell" coming up next. could be a big final hour of trading. bill griffith and an australian woman hosting the next hour. stay tuned anyway. >>> yeah. hang on, kids. here we go. welcome to "closing bell." i'm bill griffith. >> and i'm the australian woman. i'm mandy back at cnbc's world headquarters standing in for maria bartiromo. here we go, folks. stap yourself in. last trading hour for the whole year. the fiscal cliff, there may be a merge. we'll bring more on that. >> take a look at the charts. this tells the story in the last few minutes with mitch mcconnell on the floor saying that we are very, very close. we'll get more details from john harwood in a moment, but right now the markets are voting and they're giving thumbs up wi
we've got a deal on taxes. we've got a few kinks to work out but they are quote, very, very close to a deal. tune in tonight 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. live for coverage of the fiscal cliff. myself and a cast of thousands with your latest as we count down toward the end of the year. "closing bell" coming up next. could be a big final hour of trading. bill griffith and an australian woman hosting the next hour. stay tuned anyway. >>> yeah. hang on, kids. here we go. welcome to...
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you have to do something on taxes. really, plan b was about tax cuts, not spending. it seems to me the only with the republican party will get major spending cuts passed is it they also agreed to new revenue. otherwise, the president cannot be out there continually only cutting spending while leaving all of the bush-ever tax cuts in place. host: let me share with you what emily etherege writes. she says it is almost certain that social security will be part of the deal. continued murkiness has groups concerned. democrats are critical of the president putting this issue on the table. republicans say it has to be. guest: despite the conversations about the grand bargain, it was never going to happen, there had not been enough preparation. one of my predictions from my column in 2012 was predictions for next year. what i am telling everybody is we are not going to get a big tax reform package next year because it takes two years to enact. without that, we will not get mandatory spending changes. that means the grand bargain is two years off. it cannot be part of the fis
you have to do something on taxes. really, plan b was about tax cuts, not spending. it seems to me the only with the republican party will get major spending cuts passed is it they also agreed to new revenue. otherwise, the president cannot be out there continually only cutting spending while leaving all of the bush-ever tax cuts in place. host: let me share with you what emily etherege writes. she says it is almost certain that social security will be part of the deal. continued murkiness has...
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is a fat tax like the one that they have in europe the way to do it? a vat tax? a value added tax? is that story coming up next. how do traders using technical analysis streamline their process? at fidelity, we do it by merging two tools into one. combining your customized charts with leading-edge analysis tools from recognia so you can quily spot key trends and possible entry and exit points. we like this idea so much that we've applied for a patent. i'm colin beck of fidelity investments. our integrated technical analysis is one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. now get 200 free trades when you open an account. >> when you start talking about an issue of treatment of mental illness, the mentally ill should they have access to guns? well, there is a rational response that most americans have somebody who is not thinking clearly should not have a gun in their hands. but how do you define and that codify that into law? that's a much trickier issue. david: that was scott rasmussen with the latest poll on gun control and don't forget to tune into varney 9
is a fat tax like the one that they have in europe the way to do it? a vat tax? a value added tax? is that story coming up next. how do traders using technical analysis streamline their process? at fidelity, we do it by merging two tools into one. combining your customized charts with leading-edge analysis tools from recognia so you can quily spot key trends and possible entry and exit points. we like this idea so much that we've applied for a patent. i'm colin beck of fidelity investments. our...
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higher tax rate. john boehner floated a plan that would have kept low rates for those making up to a million dollars. two house members talked to us earlier today about where the tax issue is likely heading. >> the $400,000 level seems to me to be about right. that represents about the top 1% of income earners in the country. we need to save tax hikes on as many americans as we can. i kind of feel like i'm a life guard and we got to save as many people from crown not guilty higher taxes as we can. >> the challenge is finding the right figure to win some republican support in the senate and attract enough votes to pass the house. kelly. >> kelly: interesting comment right there, feeling like a life guard. many people are wondering if they're going to do that on capitol hill. thanks so much. going to be an interesting new year. watch fox sunday tomorrow. chris wallace talks with lindsey graham and nine fine stein. check your -- diane feinstein. >> heather: new york city police have a woman in custody wh
higher tax rate. john boehner floated a plan that would have kept low rates for those making up to a million dollars. two house members talked to us earlier today about where the tax issue is likely heading. >> the $400,000 level seems to me to be about right. that represents about the top 1% of income earners in the country. we need to save tax hikes on as many americans as we can. i kind of feel like i'm a life guard and we got to save as many people from crown not guilty higher taxes...
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the idea of sort of flat taxes or national retail sales tax, taxes have long been proposed and talked about. i mean, i think fundamentally, it sounds appealing, but, you know, what you're really talking about is relative to what we do now. you're talking about a much different way of raising -- much more revenue from lower and middle income people and less from the very rich. my sense is that's not where the american people are at. there is this sort of sense that higher income people raising the dollar revenue from them is sort of less harmful than it is from lower income folks. so, i mean, those debates are worth having, but i think when you actually get down to the specifics and play it out, things like a straight flat tax or national retail sales tax don't make a lot of sense. host: we've been talking with joseph rosenberg, a research associate at the tax policy center. if you want to get more information about the work that they do, you can go to our website, taxpolicycenter.org. part of the urban tax policy working center. thank you very much for being on the program. >> it is f
the idea of sort of flat taxes or national retail sales tax, taxes have long been proposed and talked about. i mean, i think fundamentally, it sounds appealing, but, you know, what you're really talking about is relative to what we do now. you're talking about a much different way of raising -- much more revenue from lower and middle income people and less from the very rich. my sense is that's not where the american people are at. there is this sort of sense that higher income people raising...
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earned-income tax credit. earned-income tax credit is a measure passed during the reagan administration which said that we would give working families a tax benefit for working. earned-income tax credit. and that is probably, as president reagan described it, the best way to eliminate reduced poverty in our nation. so the earned-income tax credit has been extended for five years. the child tax credit, which does exactly what it says, says to families with children, we will give you a tax credit to help you raise those children, that too was renewed for another five years. and a provision in the law which was added by senator schumer of new york years ago which helps working families to pay for college education, that too was included in this measure. so from a working family perspective, there are many good and important elements that were included in this measure. we also considered a lot of other tax measures, some of which i liked and some i didn't like. one of them in particular, the estate tax, is a tax t
earned-income tax credit. earned-income tax credit is a measure passed during the reagan administration which said that we would give working families a tax benefit for working. earned-income tax credit. and that is probably, as president reagan described it, the best way to eliminate reduced poverty in our nation. so the earned-income tax credit has been extended for five years. the child tax credit, which does exactly what it says, says to families with children, we will give you a tax credit...
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, and income, tax flow, which is taxed. i think there's a distinction between the two. when i say the rich, i guess i'm primarily referring to wealthy people who have accumulated wealth and they are sitting on it. they don't care if other people pay higher tax rates on their income. that's the group of people that we're talking about, isn't it? >> absolutely. they are showing the ultra wealthy can show very little income, warren buffett is not worried about, you know, someone that has a net worth of let's say less than 5 million dollars pays more taxes, i mean he's got so much money he will never see most of the money he's got. it is a completely different game. stuart: it is a different game. but now address those people, the strivers of this world who have income on the books, very high income, whether they're sports people or entertainers or whatever it is they do, entrepreneurs, for example, how do they feel about the higher tax rates which are really going to hurt them and many of them actually voted for it? how do the
, and income, tax flow, which is taxed. i think there's a distinction between the two. when i say the rich, i guess i'm primarily referring to wealthy people who have accumulated wealth and they are sitting on it. they don't care if other people pay higher tax rates on their income. that's the group of people that we're talking about, isn't it? >> absolutely. they are showing the ultra wealthy can show very little income, warren buffett is not worried about, you know, someone that has a...
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capital games taxes, dividend taxes, estate taxes will all go up. everyone will see a 2% cut in your paycheck, since the payroll tax cut will expire. for every american that's about a $940 decrease in your annual takehome pay. we're talking about the child tax credit, the marital it penalty fixes, and on january 2, the stock market as you talked about, reopens, and the federal government reopens which means the sequestration kicks in. $110 billion in spending cuts a year for the next 10 years. that's a 9% cut in defense and 8% cut in domestic spending. and then we're not finished because january 7, that week, 2.1 million people will stop receiving their unemployment checks. all in all, economists say this could mean 3.4 million jobs lost and unemployment could reach 19.1% by the end of the 2013, and the u.s. will enter another recession, and yet congress can't get anything done >> there is a little bit of a cushion there. the i.r.s. didn't expect that we would get to this point. they thought congress would work something out, so it's not as if peopl
capital games taxes, dividend taxes, estate taxes will all go up. everyone will see a 2% cut in your paycheck, since the payroll tax cut will expire. for every american that's about a $940 decrease in your annual takehome pay. we're talking about the child tax credit, the marital it penalty fixes, and on january 2, the stock market as you talked about, reopens, and the federal government reopens which means the sequestration kicks in. $110 billion in spending cuts a year for the next 10 years....
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included the child tax credit and earned income tax credit and college tuition tax credit and the doc fix. this is -- it stops a 27% rehe ducks in payments to medicare providers using spending cuts as offsets. the other thing this takes care of at least temporarily we are told is dealing with the sequester which is across-the-board cuts that would hit the pentagon particularly hard but also domestic spending. we are told that there will be a two month hold off to that. and we don't know if there is an offset to try to offset that with additional spending cuts. we haven't heard that. that is what republicans were pushing for. joining me now up on capitol hill, our congressional producer chad. i think i went through that okay. >> i think you did. i think you did. i tell you the tough thing is going to be as you say the spending cuts. that is the devil in the details and that is what the house republicans will be looking for. as i talked to one house republican today, a senior member, he said look, you know, we may be better just dealing with the sequester because that gets us to spendin
included the child tax credit and earned income tax credit and college tuition tax credit and the doc fix. this is -- it stops a 27% rehe ducks in payments to medicare providers using spending cuts as offsets. the other thing this takes care of at least temporarily we are told is dealing with the sequester which is across-the-board cuts that would hit the pentagon particularly hard but also domestic spending. we are told that there will be a two month hold off to that. and we don't know if...
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other sorts of tax provisions like the 2% payroll tax will stay in effect. and for those people who have been out of work the longest and have been depending on unemployment benefits, those will continue as a part of this deal. it is complicated. it has very significant impact on the economy, on people's pocketbooks, and there has been sharp political divide for a very long time. that's the subject of the campaign on many levels, it will be a subject of campaigns for many of these members of congress in the future when they are up for reelection. but this represents a significant breakthrough after so much difficulty. much of the credit will probably go to mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. and along with their key advisers and senior staffers being able to bridge this divide, with considerable outside pressure knowing that fiscal cliff is supposed to take effect at midnight. again, it still must be voted on. a deal does not make law. it's just a first step. but it's a very meaningful breakthrough. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you so much. kristen we
other sorts of tax provisions like the 2% payroll tax will stay in effect. and for those people who have been out of work the longest and have been depending on unemployment benefits, those will continue as a part of this deal. it is complicated. it has very significant impact on the economy, on people's pocketbooks, and there has been sharp political divide for a very long time. that's the subject of the campaign on many levels, it will be a subject of campaigns for many of these members of...
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and they are taxed again at the individual level. with the dividend and capital gains taxes. george bush, to his credit, tried to do something about that and he chopped the dividend and capital gains tax down to 15%. the effect of that was to reduce the incentive for corporations to take on too much debt. if you tax equity too much, corporations take on too much debt. then it's more likely that they become bankrupt and to destabilize the whole system. gerri: you talk a little bit about competitiveness. let's detail that. low capital gains is important to our nation's competitiveness. but also, to the competitiveness of these companies that we are talking about. >> absolutely. let's say that you are a young indian or chinese entrepreneur with a science degree or engineering degree and you graduate from mit. you want to start a high-tech company. would you started in the united states, where you're getting from your company years down the road will be taxed at 30%, or would you started in china or india where the capital gains tax rate is zero? many of our major partners have z
and they are taxed again at the individual level. with the dividend and capital gains taxes. george bush, to his credit, tried to do something about that and he chopped the dividend and capital gains tax down to 15%. the effect of that was to reduce the incentive for corporations to take on too much debt. if you tax equity too much, corporations take on too much debt. then it's more likely that they become bankrupt and to destabilize the whole system. gerri: you talk a little bit about...
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on the taxes, just on the taxes, as they are structured now, if you look at the tax deal, comparing it to what the re-knew you would get over ten years, it's roughly $600 billion that they get revenue coming in from the tax deal they are striking with the framework tonight. hurricane sandy recovery billion is $60.4 billion. it's about the same annually. >> preclintonnian tax and spend democratic philosophy. you take in $60 billion a year from the rich. and it's simply you spend half of that on unemployment insurance. the rest of is it spent on all the credits, tax credits which are going to be undone. which will be retaped. if a cliff is avoided and the deal was accepted. you take the money and you spend money. this would increase the debt and deficit. republicans have one choice in the house. i don't know if boehner is able to do it. we'll go over the cliff of midnight tonight. the rates will be at the high rate. the bush tax cut will be over. if boehner is smart and the republicans including the conservatives in the caucus are smart, they would accept that, because there is no way it
on the taxes, just on the taxes, as they are structured now, if you look at the tax deal, comparing it to what the re-knew you would get over ten years, it's roughly $600 billion that they get revenue coming in from the tax deal they are striking with the framework tonight. hurricane sandy recovery billion is $60.4 billion. it's about the same annually. >> preclintonnian tax and spend democratic philosophy. you take in $60 billion a year from the rich. and it's simply you spend half of...
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tax rates. let's not add all of this wish-list that things democrats, president would like to see. let's not additional stimulus. let's not delay the sequester. if we're going to focus on one thing focus on one thing to see at least if we agree on that. we're try to get to a yes but if this ends up being christmas tree on christmas eve or new year's eve i think it i will difficult in the house. david: tim, you're kind of knew there, the fact that some people are so keptal about what is happening they're saying the president wants us to go over the fiscal cliff, that way taxes will go up for everybody and he will come in say, okay, i want to have the obama tax cuts for the middle class. no more will we hear about the bush tax cuts. from now on they will be the obama middle class tax cuts. do you believe that? >> well, don't forget the obama signed extension of these very tax cuts two years ago and said you don't raise taxes in the middle of a recession. we estimate a million small businesses will
tax rates. let's not add all of this wish-list that things democrats, president would like to see. let's not additional stimulus. let's not delay the sequester. if we're going to focus on one thing focus on one thing to see at least if we agree on that. we're try to get to a yes but if this ends up being christmas tree on christmas eve or new year's eve i think it i will difficult in the house. david: tim, you're kind of knew there, the fact that some people are so keptal about what is...
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let's start with tax revenue. these are the nation's tax revenues. what you have your is just over 2 trillion in income. that's all it is really. and look at these euros. a very big number. the spending in the federal budget. you will notice to these numbers bigger than that. not good. the deficit, like how much debt or adding. over a trillion. just when you're. federal government running a a tab of a trillion. we talk about this number of the time. let's get this zero's again. a very big number. tough to get your arms around these numbers. when you see it on a piece of paper it's easier. i thought it would be even easier if we thought about one american household. what if each of those numbers translate it into one family. if you ran the household like the federal government here is what you would be looking at. your family income, 24,400. your spending, 305,400. look at this. what's going on? you can't do this. if you were spending 35,000 only had 24,000 coming in, that's a nightmare. the new debt would be 10,900. it's a nightmare. so let's talk ab
let's start with tax revenue. these are the nation's tax revenues. what you have your is just over 2 trillion in income. that's all it is really. and look at these euros. a very big number. the spending in the federal budget. you will notice to these numbers bigger than that. not good. the deficit, like how much debt or adding. over a trillion. just when you're. federal government running a a tab of a trillion. we talk about this number of the time. let's get this zero's again. a very big...
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i mean, there are odds and ends, provisions on something called the state tax, estate tax, death tax or t-- other tax provisions something that ensnares the middle class taxpayers, it is an old law, some three decades old. that will be taken off the books, as well. there are medicare payments to doctors that are going to be reinstated every year. this is sort of a ritual that we go through every year. more things for people to dislike, there are going to be things where people are really going to have to hold their nose if they are going to pull the lever, and vote yes on this legislation and avoid having something catastrophic happen down the road here in terms of taxes, and in terms of what would happen to the larger economy, melissa. >> judging from what you just said it almost sounds like there is a likelihood possibly that it wouldn't pass in the house, is that your feeling? >> i wouldn't call it a likelihood, or a probability at this point. i think it is guaranteed there are going to be conservatives who are extremely upset about that. as a matter of fact over the course of the
i mean, there are odds and ends, provisions on something called the state tax, estate tax, death tax or t-- other tax provisions something that ensnares the middle class taxpayers, it is an old law, some three decades old. that will be taken off the books, as well. there are medicare payments to doctors that are going to be reinstated every year. this is sort of a ritual that we go through every year. more things for people to dislike, there are going to be things where people are really going...
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>> don't tax me. tax the guy behind the tree. that's what we're faced with. everybody wants to pay lower taxes and get more services if you're in defense, you say, we need the money. if you're in agriculture, you see we need subsidized crop insurance. where does it end? in montana, we've had eight years of -- they're not willing to do that in washington, d.c. they just kick the can down the road. >> what does it mean in terms of federal aid or reduction in federal aid if we go over the fiscal cliff and even if we don't go over the cliff, and they come up with a bandaid, you risk losing more federal aid down the road, don't you? >> no question about you. we're a rural state. montana is the size of pefl r. -- pennsylvania, new york. there are federal dollars that pay for maintaining those highways. you can't have a million people pay for all those highways because it connects the entire country. you have forest service, 30% of the land is owned by the federal government. so there's a lot of federal dollars that come to montana. that's part of the system. >> wha
>> don't tax me. tax the guy behind the tree. that's what we're faced with. everybody wants to pay lower taxes and get more services if you're in defense, you say, we need the money. if you're in agriculture, you see we need subsidized crop insurance. where does it end? in montana, we've had eight years of -- they're not willing to do that in washington, d.c. they just kick the can down the road. >> what does it mean in terms of federal aid or reduction in federal aid if we go over...
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. >> that's with the $250,000 and under keeping their tax rate. everybody else gets a tax hike? >> i live in an alternate reality. the grew of age in politics in the clinton administration and watched pelosi and harry reid vote for tax increases under bill clinton that are the taxes we would go back to if we do nothing. at the same time, i watched nancy pelosi lead the charge against the bush tax cuts that ultimately now they want to keep 98% of. the truth is if we go over the cliff on a tax basis, we're only going back to the clinton era taxes. if we don't change spending, we're going to stay over the cliff. even if we go back to the clinton tax rates, the clinton tax rates, which is what the cliff is described as, you still have nearly half a trillion dollars a year, $5 trillion over ten years worth of deficit. that's because while we grew the -- under bush the taxes revenue went up 25%, and spending went up 100% in the last 12 years. if you put back the revenue from the higher taxes, you still have a deficit. that's what we're trying to change. >> we kind of are where we are,
. >> that's with the $250,000 and under keeping their tax rate. everybody else gets a tax hike? >> i live in an alternate reality. the grew of age in politics in the clinton administration and watched pelosi and harry reid vote for tax increases under bill clinton that are the taxes we would go back to if we do nothing. at the same time, i watched nancy pelosi lead the charge against the bush tax cuts that ultimately now they want to keep 98% of. the truth is if we go over the cliff...
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parents very closely looking at four key tax goodies that they get in the tax code. one of those could go away. there's a child tax credit. it could be cut in half or zeroed out for married couples making $110,000 more. they can claim a smaller deduction for day care. an earned income tax credit close to $6,000 and there's something called the american opportunity tax credit, suzanne. it's designed to help lower income families pay for college. it was born out of the stimulus in 2009. that would revert it to a small amount. all of these are things parents enjoy right now. it means working families with children would see a higher tax bill as well. >> all right. we are waiting and watching what happens here in washington on congress and on the hill to make sure that people don't go through all of this because it is an extraordinary development and could mean a lot of people very much suffering because of it. thank you, christine. appreciate it. the bottom line, taxes could go up in the next 12 hours. everybody watching negotiations in washington, they want a deal. peo
parents very closely looking at four key tax goodies that they get in the tax code. one of those could go away. there's a child tax credit. it could be cut in half or zeroed out for married couples making $110,000 more. they can claim a smaller deduction for day care. an earned income tax credit close to $6,000 and there's something called the american opportunity tax credit, suzanne. it's designed to help lower income families pay for college. it was born out of the stimulus in 2009. that...
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there's a whole host of other things, $2,200, income tax, estate tax, dividend tax, all of those set to go up on americans and what is expected to be a disaster for every household. if for some reason we go over the cliff and don't do something at the beginning of january and go back retroactively and adjust the rates, krystal. >> yeah. >> peter, you said something a minute ago and significant and if there's going to be a deal, that ends up leaving some taxpayers, wealthy taxpayers, paying higher than now, it's next year for republicans to sign off on it saying it's a tax cut in some form and gives democrats to wait until next week to strike a deal and wonder besides getting what they want or most of what they want on taxes if they wait until next week, is there anything else they can get in a deal in terms of we are talking about unemployment insurance, in terms of, you know, investment income and the tax rates and stimulus and looking for more stimulus and just be a tax cut deal next week or more components to it? >> reporter: it's a good question. they're having enough struggles w
there's a whole host of other things, $2,200, income tax, estate tax, dividend tax, all of those set to go up on americans and what is expected to be a disaster for every household. if for some reason we go over the cliff and don't do something at the beginning of january and go back retroactively and adjust the rates, krystal. >> yeah. >> peter, you said something a minute ago and significant and if there's going to be a deal, that ends up leaving some taxpayers, wealthy taxpayers,...
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and the alternative minimum tax and capital gains and those are the outlines of the tax portions of the deal still not buttons up yet. >> we will see you later in the program. we appreciate everything you have done today and we have more information from amon. what are you hearing? >> we are expecting that vice president biden might be coming up here to talk to democrats. a lot of these members do not like being here on new year's eve. they are working through a lot of the scoring details of a new package here. but he expects that there might be a vote in the next couple of hours in the senate. take a listen. >> it is not something that any of us would say oh, i love it. i don't live love it but i thin good job of negotiating where there are some wins and losses and it is about even. >> house republicans are keeping their powder dry. >> he wants to wait and see it on paper before he commit to voting for it. so right now at least we don't know whether a deal that is likely to pass in the senate could pass the house of representatives. are you surprised and isn't it interesting that vice
and the alternative minimum tax and capital gains and those are the outlines of the tax portions of the deal still not buttons up yet. >> we will see you later in the program. we appreciate everything you have done today and we have more information from amon. what are you hearing? >> we are expecting that vice president biden might be coming up here to talk to democrats. a lot of these members do not like being here on new year's eve. they are working through a lot of the scoring...
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and they are taxed again at the individual level. with the dividend and capital gains taxes. george bush, to his credit, tried to do something about that and he chopped the dividend and capital gains tax down to 15%. the effect of that was to reduce the incentive for corporations to take on too much debt. if you taxax equity too much, corporations take on too much debt. then it's more likely that they become bankrupt and to destabilize the whole system. gerri: you talk a little bit about competitiveness. let's detail that. low capital gains is important to our nation's competitiveness. but also, to the competitiveness of these companies that we are talking about. >> absolutely. let's say that you are a young indian or chinese entrepreneur with a science degree or engineerindegree and you graduate from mit. you want to start a high-tech company. would you started in the united states, where you're getting from your company years down the road will be taxed at 30%, or would you started in china or india where the capital gains tax te is zero? many of our major partners have zer
and they are taxed again at the individual level. with the dividend and capital gains taxes. george bush, to his credit, tried to do something about that and he chopped the dividend and capital gains tax down to 15%. the effect of that was to reduce the incentive for corporations to take on too much debt. if you taxax equity too much, corporations take on too much debt. then it's more likely that they become bankrupt and to destabilize the whole system. gerri: you talk a little bit about...
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tax. we are hearing that in the talks on the fiscal cliff there may be a permanent fix to the alternative minimum tax. so it protects the middle class from his alternative tax system which basically was even nactd 1969 so the rich pay some kind of tax. but it's not indeksd to inflation every year. congress has to enact a patch to that. but without it h ann r block is putting out a warning say 28 million of you would have to pay the alternative minimum tax. it's $86 billion. h & r block says if you are expect a tax refund next april if you make $85,000 and you have got two kids. with this tax your refund check could turn into a $1,400 tax bill. but even without the fiscal cliff deal, here is what people's tax rates would look like if there was no deal. you will see the income levels to the left, the current tax bill owed and if the fiscal cliff hits you can see the increase there. the difference is pretty substantial. even down to the $250,000. separate from all this, in health reform we ar
tax. we are hearing that in the talks on the fiscal cliff there may be a permanent fix to the alternative minimum tax. so it protects the middle class from his alternative tax system which basically was even nactd 1969 so the rich pay some kind of tax. but it's not indeksd to inflation every year. congress has to enact a patch to that. but without it h ann r block is putting out a warning say 28 million of you would have to pay the alternative minimum tax. it's $86 billion. h & r block says...
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i'm talking about taxes going up no matter what. taxes in the esident's health care law. a new tax on invesent income, a tax on medical device makers costing jobs, those aren't the only ones, that last tax forcing companies, many companies to yoff workers. and coming attractions for thehe new year, to ben stein, charles payne, todd schoenberger and sarah, charles, you first. >> let the flood gates open. listen, dagen, obviously, we know-- actually we don't know, but it's to nancy pelosi's point we're going to find out and i hope we like it. lot of taxes associated with obamacare. you mentioned the medic device issue, a lot of these companies, by the way, medical device companies have been laying off workers right now. and that is, if this impacts, by the way, everyone, takes away from research and development, which will take away from life saving innovation and it's just, again, the very tip of the iceberg. ultimately, there's going to be a whole lot of taxes that just opens the gate for. this is just the beginning. >> ben, even if u look at action taken by the medical d
i'm talking about taxes going up no matter what. taxes in the esident's health care law. a new tax on invesent income, a tax on medical device makers costing jobs, those aren't the only ones, that last tax forcing companies, many companies to yoff workers. and coming attractions for thehe new year, to ben stein, charles payne, todd schoenberger and sarah, charles, you first. >> let the flood gates open. listen, dagen, obviously, we know-- actually we don't know, but it's to nancy pelosi's...
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tax absolutely. we can give reasonable benefits, controlled, smart spending with, do all those things and keep tax cuts at a reasonable rate. >> with the average single income household. let's say the man works, wife doesn't, or vice versa. it is $6 used versus every $1 paid in. 6-1. can clearly unsustainable. >> we need far more fundamental reform. what the governor expects to avoid massive tax increases. >> who's got the guts to do that? feels as if kufrnt congrecurren do not, jimmy. >> the president trashed it in the campaign. i think that's the medicare reform we need. does that mean revenue is at 18% of gdp for infinite? i don't know about that. >> i would like to ask you, governor, what did you think of what obama was saying? do you feel he moved the ball forward or backwards? >> i think the deal will go down regardless because the embarrassment would be so great for not going it. >> who in particular do you think is causing that embarrassment? >> i think washington, d.c. everyone. rs everyone.
tax absolutely. we can give reasonable benefits, controlled, smart spending with, do all those things and keep tax cuts at a reasonable rate. >> with the average single income household. let's say the man works, wife doesn't, or vice versa. it is $6 used versus every $1 paid in. 6-1. can clearly unsustainable. >> we need far more fundamental reform. what the governor expects to avoid massive tax increases. >> who's got the guts to do that? feels as if kufrnt congrecurren do...
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, tax legislation originates, to basically hold the line on taxes. so i feel like the elector rate made it clear that republicans you're job to protect us from economy-strangling tags increases. this is very quick path for the republicans back into the minority in 2014. ashley: is all this a big forerunner to a big debate over the debt ceiling? >> interesting that you bring up the debt ceiling. i think that's what the republicans can do. if they basically walk away from a bad deal they have a lot more power going into 2013 in that, basically president obama is going to have to deal with them on the debt ceiling. why not negotiate from a position strength in 2013? any tax increases now are retroactive, rather than give in and basically do great harm to your brand in the near term in return for nothing? ashley: basically what lesson do we learn, john, if we indeed take your advice and walk away or republicans walk away and just fall off the cliff? >> well the lesson we learn americans will still get up on january seg and go to work because what is they
, tax legislation originates, to basically hold the line on taxes. so i feel like the elector rate made it clear that republicans you're job to protect us from economy-strangling tags increases. this is very quick path for the republicans back into the minority in 2014. ashley: is all this a big forerunner to a big debate over the debt ceiling? >> interesting that you bring up the debt ceiling. i think that's what the republicans can do. if they basically walk away from a bad deal they...
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all the bush tax cuts expire, the payroll tax cuts expire. doctors participating in medicare, see their reimbursements cut by more than 25%. good luck getting a doctor then. more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts are triggered. the economy probably falls back into recession, and merry christmas and happy new year from washington to you, the american people. heard about the offers and the counteroffers president obama and house speaker john boehner put on the table. if you live in the game area, you're going to be reading about the cliff whether you like it or not. we at starbucks have an opportunity and i believe a responsibility to use our company's scale for good, by sending a respectful and optimistic message to our officials to come together and reach important ground. this week, through december 28th, partners at our washington, d.c., area stores are writing come together on customer's cups. i am hugely in favor of this new starbucks initiative. not because i think writing come together on coffee cups will bring anybody in washing
all the bush tax cuts expire, the payroll tax cuts expire. doctors participating in medicare, see their reimbursements cut by more than 25%. good luck getting a doctor then. more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts are triggered. the economy probably falls back into recession, and merry christmas and happy new year from washington to you, the american people. heard about the offers and the counteroffers president obama and house speaker john boehner put on the table. if you live in the...
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the idea of sort of flat taxes or national retail sales tax, taxes have long been proposed and talked about. i mean, i think fundamentally, it sounds appealing, but, you know, what you're really talking about is relative to what we do now. you're talking about a much different way of raising -- much more revenue from lower and middle income people and less from the very rich. my sense is that's not where the american people are at. there is this sort of sense that higher income people raising the dollar revenue from them is sort of less harmful than it is from lower income folks. so, i mean, those debates are worth having, but i think when you actually get down to the specifics and play it out, things like a straight flat tax or national retail sales tax don't make a lot of sense. host: we've been talking with joseph rosenberg, a research associate at the tax policy center. if you want to get more information about the work that they do, you can go to our website, taxpolicycenter.org. part of the urban tax policy working center. thank you very much for being on the program. guest: tha
the idea of sort of flat taxes or national retail sales tax, taxes have long been proposed and talked about. i mean, i think fundamentally, it sounds appealing, but, you know, what you're really talking about is relative to what we do now. you're talking about a much different way of raising -- much more revenue from lower and middle income people and less from the very rich. my sense is that's not where the american people are at. there is this sort of sense that higher income people raising...
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but tax increases are a fact of life. that's the story, tax increases under mr. bush and surpluses under mr. clinton tax increases as far as the eye can see under mr. obama. >> when do the spending cuts happen, sarah? >> never. >> and you often see the tax increases kick in and in the health care law, and spending never gets cut. >> i think you need to look where the spending goes, provide preventive care. and we saw 80 million access preventative care and that's a net savings for the entire health care system passed on to all of us. >> how have job cuts we've seen the medical device makers, they're sounded the horn about them. how does it help the broad economy though? >> what you're seeing is readjusting of the economy. most of this tax money comes out of those making 250,000 or mo more, an increase on those individuals. at the same time that we're finding out here on capitol hill about a decrease on those making 250 or less, so, majority of americans. when we have this increase on a very small portion, we see that those folks are welcoming this increase, a pol
but tax increases are a fact of life. that's the story, tax increases under mr. bush and surpluses under mr. clinton tax increases as far as the eye can see under mr. obama. >> when do the spending cuts happen, sarah? >> never. >> and you often see the tax increases kick in and in the health care law, and spending never gets cut. >> i think you need to look where the spending goes, provide preventive care. and we saw 80 million access preventative care and that's a net...
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the affect of taxes would have changed. then it is, in fact, a tax cut season. not a tax increase season. again, those mechanics can be adjusted somewhat, but there are real practical elements that go beyond the political wrangling that will be dealing with if, in fact, we get -- if we get a deal, and then it will be sort of a countdown to the clerical staff getting it done. chris. >> as anyone who has ever bought a house can atus to, it takes time just to sign your name to lots of documents. >> exactly. >> i want to go to you. you know, this news about president obama coming on at 1:30 p.m. came just moments ago. have you had a chance to do any reporting? do we expect, this doesn't sound from reporting like is he announcing the deal. what will he do? do we have any idea? >> my reporting mampz kelly's reporting. it does not appear as though president obama will be announcing a deal he will be speaking with middle class americans behind him, and he will send the message that if they do not act by john 1st, the average american will see their taxes go up by about
the affect of taxes would have changed. then it is, in fact, a tax cut season. not a tax increase season. again, those mechanics can be adjusted somewhat, but there are real practical elements that go beyond the political wrangling that will be dealing with if, in fact, we get -- if we get a deal, and then it will be sort of a countdown to the clerical staff getting it done. chris. >> as anyone who has ever bought a house can atus to, it takes time just to sign your name to lots of...
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if we go over the fiscal cliff, what does it mean for you, income tax, estate tax, dividend tax, big changeses, yes, they are coming. can you protect yourself from the government? probably not, but we'll detail what's going to happen to you next. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis sympto. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. p
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>> okay, if you tax people over $250,000. >> wait a second, okay. >> tax them over a million, you might bring in on the best of years, you might bring-- wait a second you might bring in 80 billion dollars for a year. 60 billion of that is already spoken for in storm damage relief hurricane sandy. you're doing nothing towards getting a deficit situation solved, nothing at all. >> that's it. >> and you slow the economy and the deficit is worse in the future. >> and the republican party say that we shouldn't have-- we're talking. >> what? >> rate-aphobes, and grover cleveland or whatever-- >> that's the president. >> and took millions off the roles, 0 probable did and a fair 10% tax bracket and-- >> and a lot of those people-- why do you jeopardize all of the tax cuts for rich people? >> people who understand this think that that defense is disgusting, for ten years all they said was that president bush only provided tax cuts that benefitted the rich. that was a talking point for years. all of a sudden, it's like, oak, well, he we didn't mean that. >> a lot of that was true. >> and in the
>> okay, if you tax people over $250,000. >> wait a second, okay. >> tax them over a million, you might bring in on the best of years, you might bring-- wait a second you might bring in 80 billion dollars for a year. 60 billion of that is already spoken for in storm damage relief hurricane sandy. you're doing nothing towards getting a deficit situation solved, nothing at all. >> that's it. >> and you slow the economy and the deficit is worse in the future. >>...
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cut, not a tax increase, because taxes go up january 1st. i think the best way to answer is by telling you what mitch mcdonnell did, the senate republican leader, the point person with the vice president in the past 24 hours in these negotiations. he said, we are so close on almost everything that we should just hold a vote right now. he believes they're there. they have a deal on most of the -- all of the tax issues and most other issues except for one outstanding issue, and that is the sequester, those mandatory spending cuts, how to delay those and in what timetable and in what fashion. democrats simply haven't -- we haven't heard from harry reid yet but privately democrats are saying we're not ready to do that yet because we still don't think we have a deal. mitch mcconnell trying to push things along by saying that publicly, he's fine with voting on all of the things they have agreed on right now. >> dana, let's get back to this procedural issue. the vote in the house presumably tomorrow, but that only follows a vote in the senate. that
cut, not a tax increase, because taxes go up january 1st. i think the best way to answer is by telling you what mitch mcdonnell did, the senate republican leader, the point person with the vice president in the past 24 hours in these negotiations. he said, we are so close on almost everything that we should just hold a vote right now. he believes they're there. they have a deal on most of the -- all of the tax issues and most other issues except for one outstanding issue, and that is the...
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credit the child tax credit and the college tax credit would be extended for another five years the estate tax would be raised to forty percent for properties worth more than five million dollars the deal would extend unemployment benefits for another year and finally the capital gains tax would increase from fifteen percent to twenty percent. so what does this really mean i'm joined now by sam sax progressive writer and commentator and also a former capitol hill staffer so sam i know you've been sort of following this throughout the day as i have what do you think are the winners and losers well right now it appears that the winners the same people who've been winning for the last several decades and that's the extremely wealthy people in america i mean right now the whole debate and center around just how many wealthy people are going to get the bush tax cuts and we've seen that the president for about four years has said he's not going to cave on two hundred fifty thousand dollars threshold we saw him cave about two years ago on that and he appears to be ready to cave on that it
credit the child tax credit and the college tax credit would be extended for another five years the estate tax would be raised to forty percent for properties worth more than five million dollars the deal would extend unemployment benefits for another year and finally the capital gains tax would increase from fifteen percent to twenty percent. so what does this really mean i'm joined now by sam sax progressive writer and commentator and also a former capitol hill staffer so sam i know you've...
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cut, increases in other taxes on families like the alternative minimum tax and the expiration of the payroll tax holiday, there's this to think of, for 2 million unemployed worker, the loss of unemployment benefits. we have asked experts to join us for a fiscal cliff roundtable discussion, if you will. ron brownstein is a senior -- cnn senior political analyst and editorial director of the national journal and stephen moore, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal" and is in washington, d.c. first up, ron, will, do you think, these politicians reach a deal or not and why or why not? >> the fiscal cliff was yeelted as a doomsday machine to try to give them more will power to do what they can't do on their own, to reach a deal. the reason all of this was here, incentive to reach a deal, some of your guests pointed out during the day, a lot can go wrong when you leave is it to this late, a little little surprising to me republicans don't feel urgency, talk about this in a minute, maybe, the wolf on the other side of the cliff, difficult for both sides, the country is worse f
cut, increases in other taxes on families like the alternative minimum tax and the expiration of the payroll tax holiday, there's this to think of, for 2 million unemployed worker, the loss of unemployment benefits. we have asked experts to join us for a fiscal cliff roundtable discussion, if you will. ron brownstein is a senior -- cnn senior political analyst and editorial director of the national journal and stephen moore, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal" and is...
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and the alternative minimum tax got a tax for inflation. that shields an average of $300,000 each in higher taxings. get ready for a confusing tax season. >> it's very likely that people will not be able to file on time and not be able to get the refunds and that the computers will not be all set up to take in account the new laws that we think are being passed. >> reporter: house members are due back in the hospital at noon tomorrow and vote on the compromise bill that the senate just passed. sharon chen. >> reporter: breaking news out of sacramento tonight, five people have been shot at a new year's eve celebration along the river front. at least two have died. about 40,000 people were gathered for a fireworks show. so far there's no word on what triggered the shooting and there have been no arrests. police cancelled the midnight fireworks show that was scheduled tonight. >> an exciting and unexpected end to 2012 at international airport after a man hopped a fence and took off across the tarmac. it happened just before 8:00 tonight the ma
and the alternative minimum tax got a tax for inflation. that shields an average of $300,000 each in higher taxings. get ready for a confusing tax season. >> it's very likely that people will not be able to file on time and not be able to get the refunds and that the computers will not be all set up to take in account the new laws that we think are being passed. >> reporter: house members are due back in the hospital at noon tomorrow and vote on the compromise bill that the senate...
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they get $120 billion tax break. and people come forward and say we're very serious about deficit reduction. third area that we have to look at, the president wanted, as you recall a few weeks ago, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. we're now down to, as i understand it, about $600 billion. a significant reduction. if you don't have new revenue coming in from the wealthiest people, it will mean, as we go down the pike -- >> there are so many issues like, this that are -- have been originally talked about. but when push comes to shove, and it comes up to the absolute deadline and everybody is hopefully still talking tomorrow, how narrow could this deal be to get it done? >> how what? >> how narrow could this deal be? could it be just about whose taxes expire and whose don't? >> as i think some of your commentators made, people have to understand the world does not collapse in terms of the so-called deficit cliff, which many of us see as a slope. it doesn't collapse on january 1. not everybody's taxes are going up. you have
they get $120 billion tax break. and people come forward and say we're very serious about deficit reduction. third area that we have to look at, the president wanted, as you recall a few weeks ago, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. we're now down to, as i understand it, about $600 billion. a significant reduction. if you don't have new revenue coming in from the wealthiest people, it will mean, as we go down the pike -- >> there are so many issues like, this that are -- have been originally...
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, tax, tax. >> amazing like a head scratcher? >> yeah. i get the fact we had five straight down days and we were oversold. i don't think you get a solution that rallies this market 2% tomorrow, even if it's everything everybody wanted to hear. >> right, the fact of the matter is, they may agree on taxes but taxes across the board pretty much are going higher and there's still the debt limit issue and then the spending cuts issue. >> that's the thing. you nailed it. the debt ceiling conversation is going to be a weapon of force and it's something that's going to be hanging over this market. i heard nothing about entitlements. a house that wasn't even going to vote for boehner's plan b, which was $1 million in terms of the tax increases. i'm a little skeptical and i'm more worried about what happens from here. >> i think tim hit it right on the head. the debt ceiling debate is going to be a problem. remember what we had in 2011, it was a disaster. what it looks like to me, you have a lot of people getting long this market. you coul
, tax, tax. >> amazing like a head scratcher? >> yeah. i get the fact we had five straight down days and we were oversold. i don't think you get a solution that rallies this market 2% tomorrow, even if it's everything everybody wanted to hear. >> right, the fact of the matter is, they may agree on taxes but taxes across the board pretty much are going higher and there's still the debt limit issue and then the spending cuts issue. >> that's the thing. you nailed it. the...
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the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the stock market sell off rather dramatically just in those couple of minutes as that news was coming out. i got to say that over the past 24
the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us...
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those are the basics on middle class taxes. on estate tax, from 35 to 40%. the question is going to be, can they solve the sequester problem and sell it to members in both parties? get it through senate on bipartisan vote? in effect force john boehner to put it on the floor in which parties tell me it would pass. >> that is then the critical issue, is it not? we heard earlier on with the deputy for dop in the house is a must. details are in private and no one was talking to them. would the deal get passed in the house? >> i think it could. we have been talking to republicans who say they think a deal from the senate will pass in the house but pass with democratic and republican votes. he think speaker boehner will put it on the floor and folks are telling me that but that said, you never know until you know and that's why they have the whip operations. they are counting nos very carefully to find out how many liberal democrats and republicans they can lose on either side to have coalition votes in the middle. that's the real trick. some have been optimistic
those are the basics on middle class taxes. on estate tax, from 35 to 40%. the question is going to be, can they solve the sequester problem and sell it to members in both parties? get it through senate on bipartisan vote? in effect force john boehner to put it on the floor in which parties tell me it would pass. >> that is then the critical issue, is it not? we heard earlier on with the deputy for dop in the house is a must. details are in private and no one was talking to them. would...